As a certified Old Person, it's just fucking exhausting to see Cass trotting out the same crap that since my teens I've seen so-called mental health experts trotting out to anyone admitting to anything but the straightest of sexual orientations: You're not really gay, it's a mental health problem, so take this medication and it'll all go away! You think you're lesbian? Get married and have babies, that'll fix it! Still not convinced you're truly heterosexual? A few months, years, or decades in a mental health institution will cure you! It was stupid and sadistic last century, it's stupid and sadistic now, and will be for ever more. Thanks to your analysis for showing me that Cass is even more intellectually bankrupt than I'd previously thought.
Thank you for this. Between this and Julia Serano’s Substack, Switch Hitter, compiling all her rebuttals to the Cass Report and other disinformation, I am truly hoping that we are moving past the point where transphobia in any form is acceptable. I am sometimes very naive, but I still hope.
Even if we, arguendo, say that being trans is worse than not being trans...
In the medical setting, the patient we have in front of us needs help, and the help we can offer is transition.
In almost every other case, no-one fails to see that the physician has the duty to help the patient have as good an outcome as possible from the starting point of today. Even if we think that being trans is worse than not, we can not go back in time and change the foetal development such that the person develops differently.
If we had time travel, we could go back and abort, but I get the feeling that this option doesn't work for those who want to give our patients worse outcomes.
So they demand that you live and suffer according to their sense of beauty and propriety. Such wonderful people.
When I attempted to read the Cass report (I stopped for my sanity, 40 pages in) I was using different highlighter colours to note different aspects. I stopped when I realised "more funding and staff needed" yellow was being heavily outdone by "wtf Hilary" green.
Now I've probably read most of it 3-5 times. I go looking for a specific piece of information, then read the pages around it for context to make sure that what I remember is actually correct. Then at some other point I'm writing about something else, and I look for a different piece of info and read the pages around that bit. I'm sure there are parts of it I've only read once, but that's gotta be less than a quarter of it at this point.
Those that are opposed to another individuals’ health care, need to mind their own F’n business! They try to impose their religious or moral values on another’s life choices by deciding their entitlement to access to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. F them!
"imposing their religious, immoral values on another's life choices" (edit mine) is what religious busybodies are all about.
If they didn't have that, they'd be forced to examine their own lives, see where they are lacking in basic empathy and respect for both themselves and their fellow human, and hate themselves even more than they already do
It makes me barf in my mouth to hear "authorities" say that the right to have bodily autonomy should be linked to how productively employed someone is apt to be. Firstly, I'd assume that people are going to be more "productive" when they're not miserable, but more importantly WTAF? I don't want anyone making decisions for me based on their opinion of my productivity. That seems like it should go without saying.
"Polgreen details at one point how the Johns Hopkins gender clinic shut down after a report on the effectiveness of gender medicine was released that found that trans people themselves were very happy to have had access to treatment, but that treatment didn’t make patients less likely to be arrested or more likely to maintain steady, long-term employment or more likely to get heteromarried." Those are the markers used to measure efficacy of treatment? Am I missing something?
Kudos to Lydia Polgreen for showing the hideous Cass Report for what it actually is. These ideologues pretending to be motivated by compassion and science are shooting from the hip, either blind to or reveling in the suffering they inflict. And, as always, kudos to you, CD!
Its the second one. They "hate" as a fun exercise in their lives ... trans people are simply the latest target since society has taken away their ability to be comfortably racist or homophobic.
As a certified Old Person, it's just fucking exhausting to see Cass trotting out the same crap that since my teens I've seen so-called mental health experts trotting out to anyone admitting to anything but the straightest of sexual orientations: You're not really gay, it's a mental health problem, so take this medication and it'll all go away! You think you're lesbian? Get married and have babies, that'll fix it! Still not convinced you're truly heterosexual? A few months, years, or decades in a mental health institution will cure you! It was stupid and sadistic last century, it's stupid and sadistic now, and will be for ever more. Thanks to your analysis for showing me that Cass is even more intellectually bankrupt than I'd previously thought.
Thank you for this. Between this and Julia Serano’s Substack, Switch Hitter, compiling all her rebuttals to the Cass Report and other disinformation, I am truly hoping that we are moving past the point where transphobia in any form is acceptable. I am sometimes very naive, but I still hope.
Even if we, arguendo, say that being trans is worse than not being trans...
In the medical setting, the patient we have in front of us needs help, and the help we can offer is transition.
In almost every other case, no-one fails to see that the physician has the duty to help the patient have as good an outcome as possible from the starting point of today. Even if we think that being trans is worse than not, we can not go back in time and change the foetal development such that the person develops differently.
If we had time travel, we could go back and abort, but I get the feeling that this option doesn't work for those who want to give our patients worse outcomes.
So they demand that you live and suffer according to their sense of beauty and propriety. Such wonderful people.
When I attempted to read the Cass report (I stopped for my sanity, 40 pages in) I was using different highlighter colours to note different aspects. I stopped when I realised "more funding and staff needed" yellow was being heavily outdone by "wtf Hilary" green.
Glad to see someone is calling out this nonsense.
I read the whole, damn thing.
Oy.
Now I've probably read most of it 3-5 times. I go looking for a specific piece of information, then read the pages around it for context to make sure that what I remember is actually correct. Then at some other point I'm writing about something else, and I look for a different piece of info and read the pages around that bit. I'm sure there are parts of it I've only read once, but that's gotta be less than a quarter of it at this point.
Those that are opposed to another individuals’ health care, need to mind their own F’n business! They try to impose their religious or moral values on another’s life choices by deciding their entitlement to access to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. F them!
"imposing their religious, immoral values on another's life choices" (edit mine) is what religious busybodies are all about.
If they didn't have that, they'd be forced to examine their own lives, see where they are lacking in basic empathy and respect for both themselves and their fellow human, and hate themselves even more than they already do
It makes me barf in my mouth to hear "authorities" say that the right to have bodily autonomy should be linked to how productively employed someone is apt to be. Firstly, I'd assume that people are going to be more "productive" when they're not miserable, but more importantly WTAF? I don't want anyone making decisions for me based on their opinion of my productivity. That seems like it should go without saying.
"Polgreen details at one point how the Johns Hopkins gender clinic shut down after a report on the effectiveness of gender medicine was released that found that trans people themselves were very happy to have had access to treatment, but that treatment didn’t make patients less likely to be arrested or more likely to maintain steady, long-term employment or more likely to get heteromarried." Those are the markers used to measure efficacy of treatment? Am I missing something?
Someone is missing something, but it's not you.
𝐴𝑡 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑝𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡 𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑎 𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑑 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑛𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 ℎ𝑎𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑔𝑟𝑜𝑤𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑢𝑝 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑔𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑠𝑒𝑥, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑛𝑜 𝑤𝑎𝑦 𝑡𝑜 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑚𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑡 𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑠𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛. “𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑚𝑎𝑦 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑑 𝑎 𝑑𝑖𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑢𝑡𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑚𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑛𝑜𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑛𝑒𝑒𝑑𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑡𝑎𝑘𝑒 𝑙𝑖𝑓𝑒𝑙𝑜𝑛𝑔 ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑠,” 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡 𝑠𝑎𝑦𝑠, 𝑟𝑒𝑓𝑒𝑟𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑑𝑟𝑒𝑛 𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑔𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑓𝑒𝑚𝑎𝑙𝑒 𝑎𝑡 𝑏𝑖𝑟𝑡ℎ.
Read The Road Not Taken and see if you understand it this time.
Kudos to Lydia Polgreen for showing the hideous Cass Report for what it actually is. These ideologues pretending to be motivated by compassion and science are shooting from the hip, either blind to or reveling in the suffering they inflict. And, as always, kudos to you, CD!
Its the second one. They "hate" as a fun exercise in their lives ... trans people are simply the latest target since society has taken away their ability to be comfortably racist or homophobic.
I have lost all faith in the Times. Let’s see if they do something outrageous like retracting the article. Or Pamela Paul will publish a rebuttal.
What's the betting they give Pamela Paul yet more space by way of “balance”?
Free gift link https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/13/opinion/cass-report-trans-kids.html?unlocked_article_code=1.C04.C1Ru.ZY79E6aYNYT-&smid=url-share
Thanks!
Thank you, Bruce!